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ciroccoj ([personal profile] ciroccoj) wrote2005-05-07 04:16 pm

Sheltering Pt 2

Here's a question: what age do you think is appropriate to allow kids to watch Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves?

We own the movie (I think we got it from [livejournal.com profile] ninja_kat) and I showed mine the trailer arrow-POV shot, because it's cool. They wanted to know if they could watch the whole thing, and I said Nope, when you're older.

Then I wondered how much older.

See, here's the thing. The violence is not that bad, as far as non-G-rated movies go. It's certainly no worse than what they've seen in LOTR. And although we eventually had to declare a moratorium on LOTR last summer after they became obsessed with killing every living and imaginary thing on the planet, we ended the moratorium a few months later to no ill effects, and I'm sure the pure violence part of Robin Hood would not be a big deal.

There's also a little teeny potty mouth - at one point, Will Scarlett says "F*ck me, they cleared it!" but again, that's not a big concern. They've heard those words before. They know where they're appropriate and where they're not (eg in the playground = not OK; on the ski hill after nearly being killed by a chair lift = OK).

But there's a scene in there where the Sheriff of Nottingham forcibly marries Maid Marian, and then goes about trying to un-Maid her. It's... um, somewhat disturbing. In part because it's played for laughs, which... eep. Nothing horribly graphic happens, but he's hurriedly undressing while a battle rages on outside, and there's a part where he lies down on top of her (both of them mostly still fully dressed) and shoves her legs apart - and then Robin Hood comes crashing through the window and he looks up and says something like, "Do you mind? We've just been married!"

See, I don't have much of a problem with sexuality, although somehow Daniel has reached the venerable age of 8 still not knowing how babies are made because he just hasn't asked (Justin, OTOH, asked and was told and said Huh.) But I'm not sure I want my kids to see what's basically a rape scene played for humour value.

But then again... the rest of the movie is pretty good... how big a deal is this... and what if we talk about it with them beforehand... and what if they see the movie (or something else like it) somewhere else... and you know the drill. Blahblahblahmommyangst.

Any ideas? How old do you think kids should be before viewing this movie, or one like it? How old is too old to be shielding them from this kind of thing? How many roads must a man walk down before you call him a man?

Ignore that CV Behind the Curtain!

[identity profile] woffproff.livejournal.com 2005-05-08 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
But do you really want your kids to grow up to be like [livejournal.com profile] culturevulture7!!!! HA! Only CV would know that Trigger was Maid Marion's horse!

She still plays with knights and horses, BTW. :)

I have absolutely no advice---other than listen to CV, she DOES know of the classic films of which she speaks---but I just remember how loud I laughed over the 'fuck me, they cleared it' line in the theater.

(CV, stop bashing me over the head with that scimtar! OUCH!!!)

Re: Ignore that CV Behind the Curtain!

[identity profile] ciroccoj.livejournal.com 2005-05-08 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
how loud I laughed over the 'fuck me, they cleared it' line in the theater.
Oh, I KNOW!! That was hysterical. All the more so because AFAIK, there had been no other profanity. And it so came from the heart :D :D

The other huge naughty-word laugh I remember in a theatre was in Star Trek: Generations, when the Enterprise is about to plow into a planet, and Data says "Oh - SHIT!!" I seriously thought I'd pee ;)