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ciroccoj ([personal profile] ciroccoj) wrote2008-11-07 08:42 am

Lies, damned lies, and...

Reading about California's Proposition 8 (and Arizona's Proposition 102 and Florida's Proposition 2) to define "One Man + One Woman = One & Only Marriage," I came across this tidbit, posted before the election:

The Field Poll released on October 31 indicated that, in the following categories, more people were opposed to Proposition 8 than in support of it: precinct voters, registered Democrats, nonpartisan voters, people who preferred Obama as a presidential choice, coastal inhabitants, people who identified as moderate or liberal, men, women, people under 65, Whites, Latinos, Asians, people who had some post-secondary education, college graduates, Catholics, non-Christians, people not affiliated with a religion, and those personally familiar with gays and lesbians. 73% of pollees who chose Barack Obama as their preferred President were against Proposition 8. Overall, 49% of the pollees were against the proposition, 44% were for it, and 7% were undecided.


Proposition 8 passed because of a hitherto unnoticed powerful voting block of... hermaphrodites?

[identity profile] mama-rana.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Makes you wonder about voter irregularities if so many people were against and yet it "passed". :(

[identity profile] ladystarstruck.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm impressed you noticed that. You really do have a well-developed lawyer's eye now!

[identity profile] linaelyn.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think we've reached the point where the Bradley Effect is no longer a factor for racism, but it's still present for homophobia. No one wants to admit they're homophobic when actually pressed in a poll question, but when standing in the privacy of a voting booth...

The race is a marathon. We're making progress in the right direction. We didn't get there this time. WE WILL GET THERE, SOMEDAY.

[identity profile] bast2.livejournal.com 2008-11-07 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL!!

[identity profile] ciroccoj.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah... I dunno, though, somehow I'm always far more likely to ascribe things like this to stupidity and ignorance than anything deliberate or underhanded. Except by the organizers of Proposition 8, of course.

[identity profile] ciroccoj.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hee... from your mouth to the Law Society of Upper Canada's ears ;)
Edited 2008-11-08 04:18 (UTC)

[identity profile] ciroccoj.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think we've reached the point where the Bradley Effect is no longer a factor for racism, but it's still present for homophobia.
Yeah, maybe, eh? Very icky. Sometimes I really don't like people as a species.

The race is a marathon. We're making progress in the right direction. We didn't get there this time. WE WILL GET THERE, SOMEDAY.
Someday. Two steps forward, one bit of a leap back. ::sigh::

[identity profile] ciroccoj.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I really wish there was somebody to contact about it, you know, just to ask "What exactly did you mean by that?", but it was partly from Wikipedia.