A Feedback Meme
Apr. 15th, 2003 09:47 pmInteresting. A feedback meme, taken from... oh, lots of people.
bear was the latest in the chain.
How much feedback, in numerical terms, is enough? Would one note satisfy? Or does it have to be in the double or even triple digits?
One note is usually enough, just as a "this story didn't drop into a void." More than that is always nice ;)
How little feedback do you need to feel that the piece failed? Like it was deeply flawed or presented poorly?
Hm... depends on the forum. And on the subject. For example, regardless of how well a piece is written, I note that on ff.n L&O, people respond most to humour or Jack'n'Claire. So if I wrote a humourous Jack'n'Claire that received 2 pieces of fb, I'd probably feel more like my writing was bad than if I wrote an angsty Phill Cerretta piece that received 0.
When you started writing fanfic, were you aware of feedback?
Only as a theoretical concept. I had read lots and lots and lots of X-Files fics, that almost all invited feedback, and never once thought to respond even when I loved the pieces. ::deep blush of embarassment::
Would you continue writing if you knew you'd never receive another piece of feedback ever?
For myself, yes, definitely. To post, probably not. This is why I wouldn't write HLOTS fic - it seems to drop into an absolute void. It's still as a tomb over there. Creepy.
Do you respond to your feedback? If yes, then why? If not, why not?
I respond to individual e-mailed fb, but not ff.n reviews unless they're very detailed, or negative in some way. Usually to let the author know that I read and appreciated their fb - most negative fb I've received has been very constructive criticism, not meant as a put-down. I don't assume ff.n reviewers are expecting replies to their fb - do they?
Do you, as an author, want constructive criticism? Or is that something better left for the privacy of beta readers? And if you were to get constructive crit, would you want it to be private e-mail or is the original posting location - ie mailing list, newsgroup, ff.net, message board - okay for review purposes?
If it's going to be negative I very marginally prefer that in private. But not to any great degree. Besides, once I've posted something, the work is there in public - I don't have a problem with the criticism being public too. And if it's really scathing ("you story sux and you suck and youre famili sux") it's good comic relief :)
I do appreciate constructive criticism, especially in beta'ing. For ff.n reviews, "Good job!" is always nice to hear, but for betaing, I'm hoping to have errors, inconsistencies, and other flaws pointed out before they're made public. I find constructive criticism really, really helpful. And I'm a big girl - I can take it ;)
Do you, as an author, take time to feedback other authors?
I try to, ever since I started posting my own stuff. Sometimes it's hard to find anything creative to say.
What is your experience when feedbacking authors? Do you find authors courteous in their response? Do authors respond at all?
Yes, generally. Most are quite happy that somebody read and enjoyed their work. It's good karma all around.
If an author asks for feedback, are you more or less likely to give feedback?
Depends how they ask and what their story is like. Begging is a turnoff, especially since it almost always accompanies very, very bad writing.
I have sent fb privately to people who posted a frantic "plez be nice its my 1st fick" when I found the writing (ie plot and characters) good, but the speeling and gramer atrocious. Usually I've praised the writing but pointed out that nobody will read their work if it's unreadable. Then pointed them towards The Ham Sandwich.
Does personal perception of an author - either positive or negative - affect whether you give feedback or not?
Yes. I've fb'd mediocre writing written by people I knew personally, if our relationship was positive. I'm not going to write "this is the best story ever!!" if it's not, but I'll try to point out what I thought were good points.
People I don't like... hm. I think I try extra-hard to be objective, and will send fb to a b*tch who writes well just so I won't think of myself as too much of a hypocrite. But yes, it probably does affect how I see their story.
How much feedback, in numerical terms, is enough? Would one note satisfy? Or does it have to be in the double or even triple digits?
One note is usually enough, just as a "this story didn't drop into a void." More than that is always nice ;)
How little feedback do you need to feel that the piece failed? Like it was deeply flawed or presented poorly?
Hm... depends on the forum. And on the subject. For example, regardless of how well a piece is written, I note that on ff.n L&O, people respond most to humour or Jack'n'Claire. So if I wrote a humourous Jack'n'Claire that received 2 pieces of fb, I'd probably feel more like my writing was bad than if I wrote an angsty Phill Cerretta piece that received 0.
When you started writing fanfic, were you aware of feedback?
Only as a theoretical concept. I had read lots and lots and lots of X-Files fics, that almost all invited feedback, and never once thought to respond even when I loved the pieces. ::deep blush of embarassment::
Would you continue writing if you knew you'd never receive another piece of feedback ever?
For myself, yes, definitely. To post, probably not. This is why I wouldn't write HLOTS fic - it seems to drop into an absolute void. It's still as a tomb over there. Creepy.
Do you respond to your feedback? If yes, then why? If not, why not?
I respond to individual e-mailed fb, but not ff.n reviews unless they're very detailed, or negative in some way. Usually to let the author know that I read and appreciated their fb - most negative fb I've received has been very constructive criticism, not meant as a put-down. I don't assume ff.n reviewers are expecting replies to their fb - do they?
Do you, as an author, want constructive criticism? Or is that something better left for the privacy of beta readers? And if you were to get constructive crit, would you want it to be private e-mail or is the original posting location - ie mailing list, newsgroup, ff.net, message board - okay for review purposes?
If it's going to be negative I very marginally prefer that in private. But not to any great degree. Besides, once I've posted something, the work is there in public - I don't have a problem with the criticism being public too. And if it's really scathing ("you story sux and you suck and youre famili sux") it's good comic relief :)
I do appreciate constructive criticism, especially in beta'ing. For ff.n reviews, "Good job!" is always nice to hear, but for betaing, I'm hoping to have errors, inconsistencies, and other flaws pointed out before they're made public. I find constructive criticism really, really helpful. And I'm a big girl - I can take it ;)
Do you, as an author, take time to feedback other authors?
I try to, ever since I started posting my own stuff. Sometimes it's hard to find anything creative to say.
What is your experience when feedbacking authors? Do you find authors courteous in their response? Do authors respond at all?
Yes, generally. Most are quite happy that somebody read and enjoyed their work. It's good karma all around.
If an author asks for feedback, are you more or less likely to give feedback?
Depends how they ask and what their story is like. Begging is a turnoff, especially since it almost always accompanies very, very bad writing.
I have sent fb privately to people who posted a frantic "plez be nice its my 1st fick" when I found the writing (ie plot and characters) good, but the speeling and gramer atrocious. Usually I've praised the writing but pointed out that nobody will read their work if it's unreadable. Then pointed them towards The Ham Sandwich.
Does personal perception of an author - either positive or negative - affect whether you give feedback or not?
Yes. I've fb'd mediocre writing written by people I knew personally, if our relationship was positive. I'm not going to write "this is the best story ever!!" if it's not, but I'll try to point out what I thought were good points.
People I don't like... hm. I think I try extra-hard to be objective, and will send fb to a b*tch who writes well just so I won't think of myself as too much of a hypocrite. But yes, it probably does affect how I see their story.
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Date: 2003-04-15 07:48 pm (UTC)Yes, I obviously have time on my hands. :)
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Date: 2003-04-15 07:53 pm (UTC)Yeah, way too much time ;)
I hadn't looked at it, frankly. I think I thought it was some sort of working headgear or something. But yeah, I think it's a mortarboard.
I wish. Like you said, 1/6 of the way to a degree. ::sigh::