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  • Canada looks set to keep gay marriage law
    Wed Dec 6, 2006 2:19 PM EST31
    By Randall Palmer

    OTTAWA (Reuters) - Parliament prepared on Wednesday to revisit last year's decision to make gay marriage legal in Canada, but with much less fanfare and with virtual certainty that the new definition of marriage will be maintained.

    Prime Minister Stephen Harper's Conservatives, most of whom oppose same-sex marriage, have only a minority of seats in the House of Commons and were getting little support from members of other parties on the issue.

    Harper's team itself seemed to be going through the motions, arguing less about why gay marriage should be rescinded and more about his promise to let Parliament have a second look.

    "We made a promise to bring the issue forward and we are keeping the promise," spokeswoman Carolyn Stewart-Olsen said shortly before the start of debate on Wednesday.

    Link to the rest of the story.


  • So, apparently the vote is tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon. Here's how to find out who your MP is and let them know what you think. I contacted my MP last time there was a vote, and was told that although he's a Conservative, he was going to vote for gay marriage, as a matter of equality.


  • Here's something I didn't know: there are currently 12,438 married gay couples in Canada. That's... a lot of people.

    And, wow, knock me over with a feather, but it actually seems as though het marriages are still doing pretty well around here, despite the scourge of gay marriage making a mockery of the institution.

    Y'know, I actually respect the Conservatives for doing this. They said they would, they're keeping their promise, and maybe if they do it and hold a free vote and it gets voted down we'll finally be able to MOVE ON.


  • Bit of cross-border trivia, that maybe our MPs should look at:

    The ten US states with the highest divorce rates are Nevada, Arkansas, Wyoming, Idaho, Tennessee, Kentucky, Alaska, Florida, Alabama, and West Virginia.

    States that have banned gay marriage? Alabama, Idaho, Alaska, Arkansas, Kentucky, Nevada, Tennessee, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, Wisconsin. And I think I'm missing quite a few in there.

    That whole protecting the sanctity thing is working well for them, I guess.

    (California, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Louisiana, and Oklahoma had no data available, according to the thing I read)


  • Oh and, the state with the lowest rate? Massachussetts. Yeah, that Massachussetts, the only one that legalized gay marriage. Who knew?


  • EDIT: So... there's this sight site called Stop the ACLU, 'Beating them with their own Sickle and Hammer!. Here's one of there their articles: Massachusetts Gay Marriage Causes Problems for other States (by davef on 11-23-06 @ 4:57 pm Filed under Homosexual Agenda, News)
    ... The case I concerned about is now coming to light, and Road Island (a state which dose not recognize Gay Marriage) has to deal with it.


    Aw, poor Road Island. Over-dosing on Gay Married Massachussettians.

Date: 2006-12-06 10:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] tudorlady.livejournal.com
That whole protecting the sanctity thing is working well for them, I guess.

::fsnork::

No kidding. Every last one of the 'sanctity of marriage' types I've run into has been divorced at least once. Some of 'em could have their own country ballads. Shhhhhheeeeeeessssshhhh.

Date: 2006-12-07 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bast2.livejournal.com
Arkansasians marry their cousins, find out they're too much alike, and divorce. ;)

Seriously, I doubt that you have had the exposure to the gays and gay lifestyle that I have. Gay marriage is one of those things which is currently being idealized and romanticized by straight people. In truth, gays change partners as often (or sometimes more often) as they change underwear. If one out of two straight mariiages break up--what are the odds in a gay marriage? I still say, if gay marriage is leagalized, the biggest winners will be the divorce lawyers.

Date: 2006-12-07 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snarkhunter.livejournal.com
You could say the exact same thing about celebrities, but there's no law preventing *them* from marrying.

Date: 2006-12-07 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bast2.livejournal.com
No, I believe the "law" of marriage was founded on what the Good Book (you know, that tome they refer to when you attend church) says about the union of male/female. No where does it sanctify male/male, or female/female. In fact, I've heard of no "heathen" socities which sanctify such unions, so there must be some sort of deep moral instinct against it.

So, I guess that's why there's no law preventing those straight fornicating celebtities to marry if they choose.

Date: 2006-12-07 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciroccoj.livejournal.com
In fact, I've heard of no "heathen" socities which sanctify such unions, so there must be some sort of deep moral instinct against it.

Um... I have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan

http://www.galva108.org/lovesrite.html

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=408324

http://www.colorq.org/Articles/2004/ssmarriage.htm

Sorry, working on essay, don't have time to find more, but that's a small spattering of what you can find if you go to google and type in variations of "same-sex marriage ancient cultures" or "same-sex marriage history" or "same-sex marriage non-european".

Date: 2006-12-07 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bast2.livejournal.com
Thanks for these references. I found them very interesting.

Date: 2006-12-07 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snarkhunter.livejournal.com
Ah, Road Island. Conveniently located in Underpass Bay, right between Transportation Peninsula and Rest Stop Shore. A popular tourist passing-through spot.

Date: 2006-12-09 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mama-rana.livejournal.com
*spits coffee onto my computer* bwahahaha.

Seriously, I was just about to comment on the lovely spelling on that site (though not as funnily as you), not just the original poster of the article, but several of the comments too. Ugh, such a turn-off.

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